Thursday, 6 June 2013

MARIAN APOSTOL - A TRUE GENIUS?

Thanks to Anonymous who sent us the following information.

If you follow this link you will find the web site for Dr Marian Apostol. Who he you may well ask.

http://www.theory.nipne.ro/~apoma/

Well. The good Doctor was the main defence witness at the trial of our old friend James McCormick (who is now languishing in prison - hope you are enjoying the food Jim!)

Dr Apostol gave evidence via video link from Romania. Those of you who have been following the story may remember that we told you that Judge Hone had to reprimand Dr Apostol because he was being prompted by someone off camera. We think that the person prompting him was probably our old friend Stelian Ilie at Mira Telecom.

Apparently Dr Apostol claimed he had tested the ADE651 over 1000 times, and he claimed it worked just fine. Was he being paid to say this? We think he should tell us.

It is clear that he has close links with Stelian Ilie. It seems they co-authored a paper together (see here)

Funny that Stelian Ilie was still supporting McCormick after he wrote a letter to all his customers and business partners claiming that he and Mira Telecom had ended their relationship with McCormick back in 2010?

Perhaps some of my more qualified readers would like to look into the work of the 'eminent' Dr Apostol and let us know what you think. Is he really a top scientist? Was he paid to betray his scientific principles in support of the ADE651? If so, perhaps his reputation in the World of physics will now be damaged?

Oh, by the way, Dr Apostol is also Laird of Glencairn, Caithness Scotland. Wow! Then again, perhaps he just bought that title from some dodgy web site.

65 comments:

Anonymous said...

From what I can tell the mathematics in his papers seems to be legit. He writes about long range resonant interactions between dipoles, which is an area of physics that could be regarded as 'real'.

What is equally true is that his theories have absolutely no applicability to the ADE 651 device. The device cannot generate an electromagnetic field, and the materials it is said to detect do not behave like simple dipoles.

I wonder if the head of his physics department knows about his 'extra curricular activities'? I doubt they would be very impressed.

Peter said...

Thanks Anonymous. As you say, had the impression our Dr Apostol was legitimate, other than his involvement with Stelian Ilie, Mira Telecom and the ADE651. Every man has his price they say. Wonder how much his was for testifying on behalf of McCormick/ Do you think we should tell the friends of Dr Apostol what he has been up to?

Anonymous said...

Dr Apostol cannot be legitimate as long as he wrote a paper to cover a fraud. The mathematics in it have as much sense as the working principles of ADE101 for everybody with practical physics knowledge

Peter said...

apologies Anonymous. Can you please point us to which paper he wrote to cover the farud? We have been emailing his friends and colleagues to let them know about his naughty behaviour.

Anonymous said...

Peter, he claimed during his already known trial appearances that he discovered the working principles of the rods and he synthesized them in the scientific paper that you mentioned in the post. A total fake, but sounds good: "dipolar force".

Peter said...

Thanks for the clarification. Afraid I did not connect up the paper on 'dipolar force' and the ADE651. Poor Dr Apostol. Reputation in tatters, and all for a few pieces of silver from Mira Telecom.

Anonymous said...

I recently e mailed the emminent Dr Apostol and asked what blind testing had been carried out on the ade651 device,what paper had he published showing test results and what was the working principle.
Surprise,surprise,no reply received but whan I E Mailed one of our uk
Cambridge professors re ADE651,received an e mail back same day stating the device doesnt work and can find no proof from the emminent Dr Apostol it does.
Who would you believe.

Peter said...

Dear Anonymous, Thank you for the update. It would be sarcastic of me to say I am surprised by the lack of response from the 'good' Doctor Apostol, so I won't. Also because I am not even a little bit surprised.

Dr Apostol clearly sold any science soul he may have had to Mira Telecom and the ADE651.

We will continue to ensure that his name and reputation are well and truly sullied on the good old internet, and we have emailed his colleagues in Romania and elsewhere to let them know that he is man of low integrity.

Cheers,
Peter

Anonymous said...

Peter,

Could you please post the text of your email to the friends of our beloved Dr Apostol. I do know some people that might get very interested about the subject...

Regards

students of Prof Apostol, 100's of them said...

What you do not state in your blog you disgusting little shit of a man is that Professor Apostol is a unlike you, you ignoramus member of the 'flat Earth Society' is a World respected Research scientist unlike those devious prats Sutherland and company. You fail to also point out that the dear Professor was not exhibited at the trial in London as a defence witness but as just another expert. Would also be worth letting the followers of your twisted mind know that the research carried out was funded by a research grant from of all people The European Union.

Peter said...

Well hello students of Prof Apostol. Great to have you visit my blog! Well, well, well. If Prof. Apostol is such a World respected scientist, how come he fell for a dowsing rod? And don't lie. He appeared at the prompting of Mira Telecom as a defence witness. I could not care less who funded the research. The ADE651 can not, does not and never did work, and if Prof Apostol still thinks it does then we invite you and him to apply to the James Randi Educational Foundation Million Dollar Challenge. Let's see who makes a fool of themselves then eh! Now, go tell Apostol to get back to real physics and not pseudoscience, you blithering idiots!

Anonymous said...

Since Dr Apostol appeared at the recent trial as an expert witness and claimed to have tested the ADE651 evice a 1000 times and it was successful,where are the test results.
Our English Cambridge Professors checked this but could find no papers or evidence of this or indeed the working principles of these devices.Perhaps you can furnish where this evidence is.

Peter said...

For The Attention Of Anonymous who requested the text of one of my emails to colleagues of Dr Apostol (who we have re-christened Dr, Arsehole). Email as follows:


Dear Sirs,

I understand that you are familiar with Dr Marian Apostol (http://www.theory.nipne.ro/~apoma/activity/marapostol.html).

Although we believe that Dr Apostol has some reputation as a legitimate scientist, we thought you might like to know that he also has an association with a company in Romania called Mira Telecom (C.E.O. Stelian Ilie).

Mira Telecom were involved with a product called the ADE651, which was claimed to be able to detect explosives as well as other substances. However, the ADE651 is a fraud. Recently Mr James McCormick was convicted in the U.K. on charges of fraud related to the ADE651 and sentenced to 10 years in prison.

In 2011 Stelian Ilie of Mira Telecom claimed that they no longer had any connection with James McCormick and the ADE651 after March 2010. This was not true. In fact, in late 2012 the ADE651 was still in use in Romania in an attempt to locate the body of Elodia Ghinescu.

During the trial of Mr McCormick, Dr Apostol gave evidence that he had tested the ADE651 over 1000 times and that it worked. We believe that Mira Telecom/Stelian Ilie arranged for Dr Apostol to appear as a witness for Mr McCormick.

Why did Dr Apostol give evidence that the ADE651 works? Was he paid to do so by Mira Telecom Whatever the circumstances, the reputation of Dr Apostol as a scientist and physicist must be very badly damaged by his association with Mira Telecom and the ADE651.The ADE651 cannot and does not work. There is no credible working principle, and it is no more than a dowsing rod dressed up to appear more credible. As any good physicist should know, dowsing cannot and does not work.

Why did Dr Apostol claim he had tested the ADE651 properly when even a simple double blind protocol would have shown it does not work? If he had carried out correct testing of such a 'miraculous' product then he could have published a paper with his results. We can find no evidence of any paper.

We ask that you put pressure on Dr Apostol and the Romanian Government to investigate Mira Telecom and their involvement with the ADE651. We understand that some of these units were sold to Romanian Airports to be used in security, and we believe more may have been sold in Romania.

This is a major scandal, and we think you should be aware that you cannot trust Dr Apostol after this matter has come to light.

Anonymous said...

Oh Peter, with the 100's of students who visited your blog, you should get glorious ratings on it...
the 100's of them I believe is just the single parrot who changes nicknames on all the blogs defending the bloody rod, and should be the same employee of your good friend Stelian

Anonymous said...

In view of Dr Apostols comments re the ADE651 detector after a 1000 positive results,,he,ll be soon claiming the million dollar Randi prize after taking the test.
I await with interest the outcome,cant see a problem.
This will dispel all you doubters out there and the university students.

Techowiz said...

to the, 100's of students of the scientist for hire Dr Apostol, or as we know you, the employee or owner of Mira Telecom.
Apostol is a fake, a fraud and a man who would sell his soul for money, as he so adequately demonstrated at the trial, of the, PROVEN, fraudster McCormick.
If as he claimed he had tested the ADE651 over a 1000 times, why did he have to be coached as regards his answers in evidence?
If he is the, 'World respected (LOL)research scientist' you claimed him to be, why then could he not see through a simple fraud like the ADE651?
To further clarify a point you made, he was not just, 'Another Expert Witness', because we had already heard evidence from real scientists, he was brought in as a, 'DEFENCE WITNESS', sadly for his reputation and McCormick's liberty, the jury dismissed him for the prat for sale that he obviously is.
One final question, why is it always the Romanians that fall for this shit, then try to defend it?

Anonymous said...

to Techowiz, I agree with all your remarks, with the except of the last one. I really don't understand why all you English guys always point to the Romanians for many of the shitty things you do. As far as I remember, Old Bailey is busy this days with the trials of at least 3-4 people charged for the same shit, while there is only one Romanian involved in all the cases and to a much smaller extent. So, in the name of all the Romanians that sustain your cause, I do ask you to stop judging the whole country for the actions of an idiot who is not really loved in here as well...

Anonymous said...

Youll all be eating your words when Dr Apostol wins the million dollar prize as he surely will.
If he cant be bothered then perhaps one of his students could put the device forward for testing,certainly help with course fees.
Let me know the date of test,Ive e mailed The James Randi site and explained the million dollar prize is all bur won.

Peter said...

Hello Mr Anonymous. Now, now, you really should not be sarcastic about the good Dr Apostol. After all, isn't he one of the most eminent,....sorry, I mean stupid physicists in the whole wide World. And as I always say, one should not mock the afflicted (except occasionally).

Anonymous said...

Peter,I,m most concerned that you are not taking my comments seriously re Dr Apostol or his students taking the million dollar prize.I,ve taken the time and trouble to forward the Jmes Randi foundation axplaining they have more or less won the prize based on the findings of this emminent scientist.
I,m looking forward to a full apology in view of your obvious disregard to this matter,Dr Apostol says it works.

Peter said...

Well, I guess all we can do is wait for Dr Apostol (or his student Mr Stelian Ilie of Mira Telecom) to apply for the Million Dollar Challenge. Of course, if they win then I will eat my hat and a lot of humble pie! But, I suspect the hat and pie are safe. Come on Apostol, apply for the MDC if you are so confident. If you do not then it just confirms what a fraud physicist you really are, and that you sold your science soul for dirty Mira money.

Techowiz said...

To the other anonymous poster, we will have to start issuing numbers for identification purpose next, anyway regarding your comment concerning my criticism of Romania I will make the following observation:
In the UK not all Muslims are suicide bombers, but all the suicide bombers have been Muslim.
and so it appears with Romania,
Not all Romanians support the swivelling aerial detectors, but all the supporters that do, have been Romanian.
I would point you to the Randi article on YouTube regarding the ADE651, the staunchest supporters, although we believe it is just one person with multiple tags, are Romanian.

Anonymous said...

I still see that you don't believe Dr Apostol is actually a genuine researcher with hundreds of written papers and students.


Please see below a link to his own Journal of Theoretical Physics where he plays the roles of Editor, Manager, Writer, Janitor and Bottle Opener:

http://www.theory.nipne.ro/CMP/jtp.html

What a great achievement to revise your own work and many times not to approve it...


Peter said...

Thank you for pointing that out Anonymous. Yes. I had noticed that the 'good' Dr Apostol appears to self publish many of his papers. Not exactly what one might call subjecting his work to peer review as is the accepted practice, and not exactly a way to enhance his credibility. I also note that most of his citations are in what appear to be the sort of Who's Who publications where you either pay for an entry, or simply submit your details, and where little if any editorial judgement as to who should appear is exercised.

It seems his stature depends more on his capacity as a self publicist than from any international respect from his colleagues. That would certainly match with his ludicrous support for the ADE651, and his mercenary relationship with Stelian Ilie and Mira Telecom!

Anonymous said...

I understand from comments here and from the MIRA website that they are beneficiaries of copious amounts of EU research funding from FP7 and ERDF sources. Some of the activities of MIRA are no doubt legal, whereas some are linked with detector fraud. I imagine the EU bureaucrats in charge of dispensing this money would want to be sure that none of it is going towards research and development of a device that has been proven fraudulent in a court of law.

Peter said...

Dear Anonymous,

You are quite right. Mira do seem to have been successful in accessing European money for a variety of projects e.g. their R&D centre. While we have no evidence that any of the money was used directly in connection with the ADE651, or indeed their subsequent involvement with two other fraudulent detectors, the DKL Lifeguard and the AL-6D, we have tried to inform various EU bodies of the involvement of Mira Telecom with these frauds.

We hope that EU bodies will be less happy to fund Mira projects in future on the grounds that they are hardly a reputable or reliable partner if they can sell frauds. One wonders how much of the EU money they have been in receipt of has been spent as they claim.

Anonymous said...

Why do you not get some of your basic facts correct, you continually mention in your words of hatred, words that I know will come to haunt you in the not to distant future Mira Telecom, 1, Mira Telecom does not exist 2.Professor Apostol publications were accepted by the UK police paid experts as scientifically correct since they had been PEER by other scientist read before publication. What the experts at the trial of McCormick did not agree on was that the findings did not relate directly to the device. It is a pity that you you profess to be such an expert could not spare the time to view at least some of the trial from the public gallery or was it that your benefactor The Randi Foundation would not fund a day out in the real world for you. Ah but of course some of you providers were there, forgot that bit for a moment. numbers 3 to 76 will follow. Strange also that the all all expenses paid invitations extended to so called experts to attend the facility in Bucharest have so far declined. What this space interested parties its going to get very interesting.

Peter said...

Dear Anonymous, or should I say Stelian Ilie?
As you say, we do indeed like to get our facts straight, so I will deal with your commenst point by point, based on the facts and not your fantasy.
1. Our words of hatred towards those who sell fraud detectors that cost live, injuries and false arrests are well deserved. Yes. We do hate people who make money from such frauds, so what is wrong with that?
2. If you think you can make us eat our words feel free to try. We have received many legal threats in the past, including from Mr Ilie, and none has been followed up, so we think it is unlikely we will have to eat any humble pie.
3. You say Mira Telecom does not exist. Strange! The website still seems to be there (http://www.miratelecom.ro), or maybe Stelian Ilie has re-named the company after all the bad oublicity he has been getting because of his involvement with ADE651, AL-6D and DKL Lifeguard frauds?
4. NO! The publications of Professor Apostol were not accepted by the experts appointed by the UK Police. Apostol appeared soley as a defence witness for McCormick at the ADE651 trial and not as an independent expert as you suggest. He claimed he had tested the ADE651 over 1000 times and that it worked, but failed to present any paper that detailed his testing protocols and results. In fact, the only paper we know of that Apostol has published is some theoretical bs which makes no mention of the ADE651 as far as we can tell. Perhaps you would like to tell us where that has been peer reviewed? Of course, if we are wrong then no doubt the paper that you claim supports dowsing as a credible method to detect explosives etc can no doubt be submitted to the Nobel Committee. If you are correct I would suggest that a Nobel prize is realistic. BUT, and it is a big but, I bet that never happens.
Whenever the fake detectors have been subjected to proper double blind testing they have failed. Get that into your thick head!
5. I have no idea what you mean when you say: “What the experts at the trial of McCormick did not agree on was that the findings did not relate directly to the device.”This snetence makes no sense. Just like the rest of your comments.
6. Various people observed the trial of McCormick, so that accusation is incorrect.
7. The James Randi Education Foundation is not our benefactor. Many of us are supporters of the JREF because Randi is a hero of the skeptical World, who has exposed many a fraud and scam.
8. You say “ numbers 3 to 76 will follow.” What the hell is that supposed to mean? Your riddles are as stupid as your defence of fake detectors amd the fake physicist Apostol.
9. I have no idea what you refer to when you talk about all expenses paid invites to Bucharest. In the time of our campaign we have received invitations to demonstrations of most of the fake devices, but have always turned them down. A demo is not a test as we have always said.
10. We will indeed watch this space, and would love it if things get more interesting. So far you just bore us with your bullshit. Now then, if you applied for the Million Dollar Challenge, or submitted the work of Dr Apostol to the Nobel Prize Committee then I guarantee you we would be very interested indeed. However, please forgive me if we do not hold our breath
In conclusion, let me repeat. Apostol is either a fool or a bought and paid for stooge. Either way his scientific credibility is zero as a result of his involvement with the ADE651. Do him a favour and tell him no amount of theoretical twaddle will make a dowsing rod detect anything. Tell him to check out the rather more substantial and proven ideomotor effect. He might learn something!

Anonymous said...

Mr Robinson, If you had been present at the trial of McCormick you would be in a position to comment with value on the proceedings and conclusions of witness's both expert and users.You would have heard with your own ears prosecution witness's time after time admit they had used with some success the devices. As an example, the person who manufactured the devices who openly stated that he himself had used with amazing success a device, when asked by the defence QC why he had not mentioned this before he answered "because nobody had asked him before" Check yourself the court records. Since you were not there then your comments are worthless and you are becoming a bigger and bigger fool every time you open your mouth. For your information this is not Stelian whatever his name is.

Peter said...

So Mr Anonymous, Not Mr Ilie. Maybe the famous Dr Apostol himsel?. Well who cares! The only success that the prosecution witnesses achieved when testin the ADE651, or indeed any of the fake devices, was no better than random chance. Do you understand that principle? It means that you could guess and be right just as often i.e. the devices do not work as claimed. That is what you must get into your head! As for anecdotal tales as you describe from the manufacturer, they do not constitute a double blind trial, and are therefore worthless. You really must get your head around how testing properly is carried out.

Now, please, before you anonymously embarrass yourself further please go away and do your research into the ideomotor effect, random chance and double blind trials.

Anonymous said...

As reported in the media, at the trial the prosecution witnesses who performed double blind tests of the ADE 651 demonstrated that it did no better than random chance at detecting explosives. If it failed these tests, it simply does not work. End of story. Dr. Apostol can write all the mathematical fairy tales he wants but that won't make the ADE 651 detect bombs!

Anonymous said...

I was treated to a demo of the ADE651 Detector some time ago.I was asked to hide an explosive stick and the operative would then find it.
The demo was over a very small area a mere 40 square metres.
It failed everytime,although we only conducted about 7 attempts.
I then asked how the device worked but the operative wasnt sure.
I can only state what happened.

Anonymous said...

Another prosecution witness at the trial of McCormick, a police officer from a European Police force when asked by the prosecution barrister had he used with some success the device. he answered to the court oh yes I and my colleagues had discovered a vehicle with narcotics in it as just one example. Like I say shame you were not there. Not Ilie or Apostol or anybody like it but you at some point will wish that was the case. We will not be going away until we have exposed you and your little team Hood, Sutherland, Streets etc to the media through whatever means it takes and for ever how long it takes. More user statements to follow.

Techowiz said...

To the anonymous supporter of the fraud known as the, ADE651. I am glad you mention the court proceedings because it brings out a rather uncomfortable fact, FOR YOU.
There were 13 very important people at the trial that heard all the evidence given, anecdotal and REAL, from all the witnesses, read all the reports and read all the statements after which, they came to the unanimous conclusion that the ADE651 was a fraud and McCormick was Guilty. That was the decision of 12 of those important people.
Then we come to number 13, Mr Justice Hone, who not only heard all the evidence given, but had access to the unused evidence, i.e. Evidence not called, agreed facts etc, after consideration of ALL the facts he gave McCormick (Your Hero) the maximum sentence by law, 10 years jail.
Do some research, see how often anyone in the UK gets a maximum jail sentence, it is unheard off, that's how much doubt was in his mind.
So, please continue to send us your anecdotal evidence and when you run out we have a hundred or so we can let you have.
We would much prefer to have REAL evidence such as documented double blind tests or testing by a CREDIBLE authority not some other paid stooge.

Anonymous said...

Do the supporters of the various detectors realise,they are trying to give credibility to devices which cost lives.They cant decide how these things operate although the latest theory appears to be dowsing.
Are we now to believe after many theories have been put forward this is the method by which they operate.
If this is the case,why do these units cost so much money,many thousands of pounds,and why is there inside an electronic circuit and detector cards.
Perhaps I,m missing the point??

Peter said...

In response to Anonymous (see third comment up from this).

1. How many times must we tell you that the plural of anecdote is not data? Also, why should anyone believe a buyer who was either fooled or bribed into buying? Of course they will try to defend their reputation, police or not, by claiming what they bought worked. Otherwise they are admitting they were a fool or corrupt. Q.E.D.

3. Go for it! We look forward to being exposed. After all, we have nothing to hide but our modesty. The more you try the more you and your fellow fraudsters will be shown to be the lying scum you are.

Got any user statements which include properly controlled double blind testing? Do tell! We can't wait to see those exposed.

marius iliuta said...

Guess what, I have received a very nice email from somebody in Mira after I sent them the message regarding our beloved Dr. Apostol. Please see it below:

'
Dear Sir,



I think you should contact a psychiatrist as soon as possible.

I do not know Dr. Apostol nor you.

My main reasons for doubting of your sanity:

1. As you refer, Dr. Apostol has a doctor title, so he must have worked and studied for this title. You are just nobody so in no position to judge anything

2. You claim that dowsing rods are a fraud, yet they are used to find water from centuries. I don’t care for the rest.

Please be so kind and seek urgent help and please don’t bother me anymore with your twisted thinking.




Best regards,

Liviu Ionescu
Research and Development Manager
Mira Technologies Group Romania
Web:www.miratelecom.ro

'
It looks like in there everybody blindly believes in the miracle called dowsing...

Peter said...

Dear Marius,

Thank you very much for passing this on. It has taken me a while to respond, as I have only just picked myself up off the floor, and recovered from laughing.

As you point out, it seems that the employees of Mira are all complete idiots. It is a wonder that they manage to do any serious business. With Mr Ionescu as their R & D Manager, I am looking forward to them releasing their new product soon, the perpetual energy and time travel machine.

I shall be writing directly to Mr Ionescu to let him know that I have contacted a psychiatrist, and given him his details for an urgent consultation.

Alternatively, if he really does believe in dowsing then I will forward details of how he can apply to both the Nobel Prize Committee, and the James Randi Million Dollar Challenge.

It is funny that he denies any knowledge of Apostol since the 'good' Professor works with Mira, and is good friends with Mr Stelian Ilie, the C.E.O. Perhaps Ilie keeps all his employees in little cages, and feeds them shit?

A gem of an email. Thanks again Marius. Do please keep us informed of any further developments in Romania. We like a good laugh!

Techowiz said...

To the anonymous ADE651 supporter, from your posts you infer you were at the trial of McCormick? If so, I will ask you a simple question (Kept simple in the hope you can understand) Do you know the end result?
From your posts it would appear that you missed the end, anyway I will tell you what happened:
The ADE651 was PROVEN to be a total fraud and McCormick was found GUILTY of that fraud. Have I kept that simple enough for you?
It would also appear from your post, you are going to embark upon a media campaign to expose those responsible for bringing this sick fraud to an abrupt end and to the attention of the authorities and the world, I am sure that would be much appreciated, they may finally get the credit they deserve.
If you need media contacts such as, BBC, most UK newspapers, New York Times, some Romanian newspapers, please just ask.
Finally, I have put your threat with all the others, in the tray marked, 'losers'.

Anonymous said...

Peter and Technowiz are wrong,these detector devices have 100% success rate when the target object is in full view.When the target object is hidden it fails obviously,the idea of hiding something is to make it
difficult to detect.Come on chaps lts apply some logic.

Peter said...

Dear Anonymous, you are quite right. Our sincere apologies! Perhaps that is why those rotten people who do not believe based on faith and evidence demand double blind testing? I knew there must be some reason. All best, Peter.

just another journalist said...

Peter you continually refer to "double blind testing" as if is some kind of Holy Grail. Do not understand if we all applied your reasoning we would all still be running around in horse and carts and crapping in holes in the ground. There is no test that matters until anything is used in the environment it were intended for. I think what many are saying on other sites is correct in that you probably are mentally disturbed after all. You nor anybody else has ever really explained why so many security agencies are not only still using these types of devices today and are still even as of last week issuing tenders to acquire more. Maybe we should all start asking different sorts of questions about this whole matter.

Peter said...

Dear Just Another Journalist,

Thank you for your comment. Now then, if you are a real journalist you will be interested in facts, so let us look at the facts.

First you question the value of double blind testing and suggest that based on my insistence that it is the holy grail (although I reject that term in favour of gold standard of science) we would still be in the dark ages. That is complete nonsense. The opposite is the case. Without scientific advances, including the application of double blind testing, we would still be in the dark ages. Your logic is entirely flawed.

How many times must we point out that those who have been fooled by the fake detectors, or bribed to buy them will obviously defend their stupidity or corruption till the last. Hence the ridiculous ongoing use of the fake detectors in some places. If they did not continue to defend the use of what they bought they would be admitting their own stupidity or that they are corrupt. How many people do you know who are prepared to do that? My guess is you won't.

If you have evidence of current tenders for fake detectors please do provide it. We will be more than happy to put anyone who is still thinking of buying this sh1t on the right track.

If the detectors are any use, then why do you suppose that recent reports from Iraq of soldiers still using the ADE651 at checkpoints suggest that most are preventing the aerial from swinging by holding it in place with their thumb? I suggest that this is because the guys on the ground know it does not work and are fed up having to deal with all the false positives these useless swivel dowsing sticks produce.

Finally, why do you suppose that the sellers of this crap have tended to avoid submitting to independent, properly controlled testing? I have pointed out that this is the simplest way to untold riches and recognition. I repeat, whenever tested properly they fail.

You may also be unaware of the testing of Sniffex at the Yuma test ground in the U.S. This was done in such a way as to simulate a real life environment. Guess what? It failed! Also, do you not think it is somewhat unethical to test in real life when every single properly controlled test shows that these things work no better than random. Where they have been used in real situations they have resulted in untold deaths, injuries, destruction and false arrests.

Now, as I advise all the twats who try to defend this stupidity, go away and do your research on the ideomotor effect, and dowsing. When you have done so like a good journalist would, do come back and let us know what you think and whether you have uncovered any evidence that it is any more than garbage.

Sincerely,
Peter

Anonymous said...

Re journalists comments about double blind testing.The ADE651 was not tested by this means and didnt work,still many were sold,fortunately,the gentleman concerned with this fraud is now locked up.From his comments are we to assume its ok to buy an untested product,which might not work,what a stupid comment.
If people are still buying these quack devices,which dont work,then there in need of some serious help.

Techowiz said...

To the ALLEGED journalist, when the ADE651 was tested, as you put it, in the environment it was meant for, let's say Baghdad, thousands died when the bombers knowing the ADE651 was a crock of shit simply drove past the check points with impunity.
You can tell it is still being used in Baghdad, because virtually daily there are reports of some bomber driving into the centre without any hindrance from the ADE651, and blowing everyone to hell.
Instead of testing this shit on real people a simple double blind test would have shown it clearly doesn't work, it would never have been deployed and lives would have been saved.
If as you say there are people tendering for more of this crap, it can only be because they have seen they money others like, general Jabiri of Iraq, (Currently in jail for fraud relating to the purchase of the ADE651) made from the scam.
There again a real journalist would know all this anyway.

Anonymous said...

I thought I,d read the most ludricous comments on this site until a journalist seems to believe that testing a product other than in the field is a waste.How stupid can one person,be.A simple test to prove the validity of the product must be done,rather than allowing lives and limbs to be lost.Technowiz covers all the points.
Dumpys Nuts

alleged journalist said...

FAO `Peter and Techowiz from the Alleged Journalist in oder to give you just a little update of what might be just over the horizon.
A major international media group has been following with great interest the developments of these 3 prosecutions and have now after some discussion have retained our group of very capable investigative reporters to compile some facts and not assumptions for an article they intend to publish later this year about "bloggers" and their legal responsibilities and this could be the perfect example. To quote but 3 items we are currently looking at.
1. Why did the BBC a World respected presenter of news and information Broadcast and network to 6 English speaking countries a Tomorrows World program clearly showing Gary Boltons device actually working but a while later screen a BBC news program presented by Caroline Hawley claiming the exact opposite.
2. Why are at least 7 World class scientists in 5 countries in disagreement with and in their words minor English academia. Please note not one of these is Prof Apsostol or any of his associates.
3. You mention in your blogs Jihad al-Jabery being convicted in relation to one of these devices. Let us, just to keep the records straight and not assume somethingas you both seem to do. Jabery was not convicted for purchasing devices from McCormick, jabery was convicted for purchasing counterfeit products, to quote a communiqué from the British Embassy in Bagdad "as we can see, the entire case (Jihad al-Jabery) is related to corrupt dealings, and it has nothing to do with the devices being ineffective etc etc etc..
We would assume that it is unlikely that this will be seen on your blog but I can assure you both that your insulting tones and misrepresentations will come to haunt you through the vehicle you have seen to use THE MEDIA.
ps a word of advice for Peter, I would check out sections 18 and 19 of the incitement to racial hatred

Peter said...

Dear alleged journalist,

Thank you so mush for your comments, and giving us the heads up as to what 'might' be over the horizon. We await whatever that with mighty interest. So far I can only report the facts. The facts are that we have been threatened many times, and none of those threats has come to fruition. Generally we consider that the reason for this is that we are right. Still, as good skeptics, we are always willing to be proved wrong. What you require is facts and evidence.

So, let's go through your comments line by line and see if we can discern any facts or evidence.

1. We look forward to the publication of the results of your investigations with great interest. Also to the revelation of which major international media group you mention is prepared to publish this.
2. The Tomorrows World programme you refer to was sadly a blot on the record of the BBC, later put right by the BBC Newsnight reports. The Tomorrows world report did not involve a properly controlled double blind test, of what was then known as the MOLE. Unless of course you have credible information to the contrary? What we do know is that Gary Bolton threatened BBC Newsnight with a potential slander/libel action via Carter Ruck Solicitors. The grounds for this threat were that the BBC should not suggest or imply that use of the GT200 had resulted directly in deaths or injuries. As I have pointed out before, it is most odd that if he had proof that the GT200 worked, he did not threaten on the grounds of the BBC stating that it did not work. Perhaps you can explain that anomaly?
3. You say that at least 7 World class scientists are in disagreement? I assume you mean that there are 7 World class scientists who support dowsing for explosives? Well, we cannot wait to see who these distinguished people are! Also to see the peer reviewed publication of their testing of the GT200 etc. If you are correct, and they can produce credible evidence to counter the overwhelming evidence to date that these devices cannot and do not work, we should expect a Nobel Prize in the not too distant future. Should we not?
4. When you refer to 'Jihad al-Jabery' I assume you mean Major general Jihad al Jabiri? Since you claim to be a journalist you might want to get your spelling right. As for your assertion that his conviction on charges of corruption was not related to the ADE651 not being operative, that is what we call splitting hairs. Let me remind you that there have been countless deaths, injuries and destruction in the green zone in Baghdad while the ADE651 was supposed to be the primary explosives 'detection' device at checkpoints. Once again, it seems to us that the onus is on you and the supporters of the garbage 'detectors' to present credible evidence that they do work. I am prepared to bet anything you like that you can not and never will be able to do so.
5. Your assurances that I will be haunted is a good one! I don't believe in ghosts anyway, and I certainly don't believe that there is any chance whatsoever that you or your colleagues will ever come up with any evidence that will contradict me or the others who have fought the despicable trade in fraudulent 'detector' devices.

As for your suggestion that I have in any way incited racial hatred, again supply your evidence as opposed to making stupid and un-supportable threats. The only hatred I have stirred up is against fraudsters and their corrupt clients, whatever their colour, race, sexuality or religion. Dream on!

Anonymous said...

Our minor Cambridge english academics have tested these quack devices and shown them not to work.Perhaps you will furnish the proof and test results from your emminent academics showing these devices work.
Dumpy Nuts

Techowiz said...

Alleged Journalist, I take it you gave up using your previous tag of, 'Anonymous', strange how anonymous should disappear threatening 'Media intervention' then you should appear, coincidence or what? You really are more stupid than you appear if you expect that fooled anyone!
Who is this group of, 'very capable investigative reporters' you refer to? My cat has more investigative ability than you will ever have even if you lived to be 200 years old.
What you fail to see in your support for these scam devices is that everything you post is so obviously bias without one scrap of evidence to support your view.
Like when you posted as anonymous, you are again cherry picking bits from different stories in a desperate attempt to appear to have an argument, like before you have failed miserably.
I will cover some of your points;
If, as you claim, there are 'AT LEAST 7 world class scientists in 5 countries', name them, and also point us in the direction of their peer reviewed double blind testing of these devices, No didn't think you could.
NO television programme, as you claim, has ever shown, 'Gary Bolton's device ACTUALLY working', it may appear to work from a set-up demonstration, that is hardly the same as a scientific supervised double blind tests, you can see the same nonsense still on YouTube with McCormick's Thailand 'testing'. Strange how these things appear to work in set up environments, but in real life or when tested by scientists there always appears to be a problem, usually blamed on the issue of testing.
FACT, Jabiri, or as you apparently know him, Jabery was convicted regarding the corrupt purchases of the ADE651, we have never claimed it was in relation to the ADE651 being a crock of shit.
To sum up, you were more credible when you posted as 'anonymous', by claiming to be a journalist you are just making a total arse of yourself, now Fuck Off and stop wasting our time.

Anonymous said...

Thanks to Peter and Techowiz these fraudsters are being brought to book.
Keep up the good work chaps,the fraudsters are going down.
There on the run,just need the odd prod.
dumpy nuts

marius iliuta said...

Peter,

You are again wrong. You were pretty sure that Mira Telecom and dr. Apostol will invent the time machine. Somebody got it already, so now the mighty doctor from Magurele will have to invent the wheel and the hot water...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/9985757/Iranian-scientist-claims-to-have-invented-time-machine.html

regards,

Anonymous said...

I Note that one of the bloggers have stated 7 scientists in 6 different countries,excluding the UK agree that these devices work,when can will the names of these people and their test results be available.
I await with interesr,any idea of time scale.
Dumpy nuts

Anonymous said...

I see dowsing has reared its ugly head again recently in a certain trial to attempt to valify the magic wand.All the tests carried out have shown this technique not to work,and simply to state it works without a proper test does not constitute proof.Strange the million dollar challenge hasnt been won.
Dumpy nuts

Anonymous said...

Still waiting for the 7 world class scientists to show proof these devices work.Surely one of them will be coming forward soon,and claim the million dollars were still waiting,waiting,waiting,waiting.
Dumpy Nuts

Anonymous said...

Where have all the 7 scientists around the world(Excluding the UK) who had evidence these quack bomb detection devices work,gone.
Theve disappeared again,your not shy are you,come on make names for yourselves.
Dumpsy Nuts

marius iliuta said...

Peter,

Please see below a very interesting system that claims to detect human body electromagnetic fields inside trains and moving vehicles. The interesting thing with this system is that it was installed in Romania, but some very good friends of yours, on some European funded project, but up to this moment they are still waiting for the specialist from Bucharest to 'configure' it. The actual configuration is a total bullshit, as since 2011 the specialist was too busy to actually tune it and pass 3 consecutive double blind tests.

Please guess who is the specialist and why the system never worked...

http://www.ralen-rc.sk/e_train_guard.htm

please use google translate for the next link from Romanian media

http://www.ziare.com/ziare-iasi/stiri-actualitate/jumatate-de-milion-de-euro-pentru-combatarea-migratiei-ilegale-2778603

Regards,

Peter said...

Dear marius,

Thank you for the information.

So, if I am correct you are saying that this 'detection' system, paid for with European union funds, installed by Mira Telecom, has been in place since 2011 and is still not working.

You seem to be suggesting that either it cannot work, or that it can only work when calibrated by an expert. I am guessing that the expert you refer to is our 'friend' the 'good' Dr Marian Apostol.

Given his testimony on behalf of the ADE651 at the trial of James McCormick, it would hardly be s surprise if this so called human detection system does not and can not work if Apostol is associated with the project.

The mention of electromagnetic fields certainly raises suspicions. As does the claim that it can function through steel and concrete. Where have we heard similar claims before/ Oh yes. The ADE761, The DKL Lifeguard, and the AL-6D. All fake detectors, and all marketed by Mira Telecom. We look forward to more information concerning this 'miraculous' development. If you are able to detect where the European money came from i.e. which particular fund, we would be happy to instigate a complaint about the project.

Odd that Mira seem to like to be involved with products and projects that do not work! Stelian Ilie sure is a dodgy boy!

Anonymous said...

simple google search gets us to the following link from ted.europa.eu


http://ted.europa.eu/udl?uri=TED:NOTICE:367718-2011:TEXT:RO:HTML&tabId=1


Peter said...

Dear Anonymous,

Thank you for the information. We will follow that up with a complaint to the External Borders Fund of the European Union, as well as to the purchasing authority in Romania, which we will copy to Romanian media who have previously published stories regarding the connections between Mira telecom and the ADE651.

Anonymous said...

Further to my comments regarding the many experts from abroad who can all testify that these devices work,unfortunately not one has come forward but I have spoken to our UK expert who actually tested one of these devices and found it didnt work other than by random chance.He was very easy to contact and very keen to hear about and discuss any tests these other experts carried out which show the devices work.
Dumpy Nuts

Anonymous said...

I cant understand why I,m still awaiting the names and tests the emminent scientists from abroad who can prove these bomb detectors actually work.There have been lots of claims that these scientists exist but as yet not a single one has come forward apart from a UK scientist who tested the device and couldnt get it to work,but is quite amenable to be proved wrong.Come on chaps best foot forward.
Dumpy Nuts

Anonymous said...

Congratulations to Peter on this blog site,the con artists who sold these woo devices are all being brought to book,a few to go but 2 of the major players residing in Jail.
I note all the experts and media who were attacking the credibility of this site have all strangely disappeared.
Dumpy Nuts

Anonymous said...

I noted in one of the blogs on this site,someone has retained a media organisation who are going to show us all,(Peter in particular) the error of our ways in not believing these magic wands work.
Strangely they appear to have gone into hiding together with the 7 emminent scientists from abroad who were going to prove these devices work.
Do you think because all these guys are getting locked away for selling fraudulent devices has frightened them off,surely not.
Were waiting,waiting,waiting------
Dumpy Nuts

Anonymous said...

Theres a new dance craze called the "Cormy-cormy"which involves high speed feet shuffling to generate electrical power in order to power the magic wand bomb detectors.
Classes are being held at Her Majesties prisons where prizes are being handed out by the man himself.
Entry forms available on request.
Dumpy Nuts